Hey guys,
First I would like to please ask that you refrain from criticizing my mistakes. I need advice and productive input so that I can make the best educated decisions regarding my health. This will be a long post but I hope I can get some of you to take the time. I would really appreciate your input. I am 24 and dealing with low testosterone and the related symptoms. I've made some mistakes in my ignorance and I just want my health back. Here we go:
I am 24. 6'3. 210 lbs. 13% BF BP 245 x 6/Squat 325 x 8/Shoulder Press 85 x 8 - you would not think I was hypogonadal. I am well developed and wear a beard.
Last summer in July I took a prohormone for 6 weeks (epi "clone"). I used nolvadex only pct for 4 weeks but I now think the tamoxifen was actually fake.
In October (yes I waited this long) I decided to go get checked for mono because I was constantly lethargic and was dead in the gym. I also requested that a blood panel be done for my testosterone levels. Mono was negative, but my testosterone was low (190 ng/ml!) This was terrifying so I made the first apt. I could with the local urologist. I gave my urologist my history of abusing AAS and he concluded that I should probably just wait for my body to work itself out.
I shared that in highschool at the age of 16 my friends and I all tried out a product called spawn and that this was a highly toxic, legal steroid. I also explained that I dabbled again with other products I found at the local GNC and that in college I ran 2 cycles of test enanthate and winstrol for 6 wks each with nolvadex only as a pct. ( I know, this is idiotic! )
I explained that I had felt great these last few years before my most recent prohormone use. He concluded time was my best friend. I did blood work for the next few months:
I do not have the blood work in front of me but i do have my TT written down. I will request my records and update so you can see the result of my full panels. I also remember that I was low in FSH and LH each time, indicating secondary hypogonadism.
Initial Oct blood work: TT 190
Nov blood work: TT 202
late Nov blood work: TT 282
February 12: TT 327
Guys I know these are all really low numbers and this is terrifying. I do not want to be on TRT because this is a lifelong commitment and I do want to have children. I am hoping time and some assistance could get my body back on track. My doctor put me on 25 mg clomid/ED last week and I will be running this until next month when I can finally see the best urologist in Texas. From my research it looks like I am secondary Hypgonadal. I need your advice in how to approach my next doctors visit.
It is a good sign that my levels are increasing on their own, right? I understand we do not have a baseline for pre AAS use, but I always had an amazing sex drive and was lean and muscular so I assume I was healthy (500-800 or so)
Should this clomid help my pituitary pick up the slack and signal the testes? Or should I continue to deal with the crash naturally and let my body do it's own recovery?
When I speak to the new urologist, should I request HCG/tamoxifen to jumpstart my system?
PLEASE ADVISE. THANK YOU.
First I would like to please ask that you refrain from criticizing my mistakes. I need advice and productive input so that I can make the best educated decisions regarding my health. This will be a long post but I hope I can get some of you to take the time. I would really appreciate your input. I am 24 and dealing with low testosterone and the related symptoms. I've made some mistakes in my ignorance and I just want my health back. Here we go:
I am 24. 6'3. 210 lbs. 13% BF BP 245 x 6/Squat 325 x 8/Shoulder Press 85 x 8 - you would not think I was hypogonadal. I am well developed and wear a beard.
Last summer in July I took a prohormone for 6 weeks (epi "clone"). I used nolvadex only pct for 4 weeks but I now think the tamoxifen was actually fake.
In October (yes I waited this long) I decided to go get checked for mono because I was constantly lethargic and was dead in the gym. I also requested that a blood panel be done for my testosterone levels. Mono was negative, but my testosterone was low (190 ng/ml!) This was terrifying so I made the first apt. I could with the local urologist. I gave my urologist my history of abusing AAS and he concluded that I should probably just wait for my body to work itself out.
I shared that in highschool at the age of 16 my friends and I all tried out a product called spawn and that this was a highly toxic, legal steroid. I also explained that I dabbled again with other products I found at the local GNC and that in college I ran 2 cycles of test enanthate and winstrol for 6 wks each with nolvadex only as a pct. ( I know, this is idiotic! )
I explained that I had felt great these last few years before my most recent prohormone use. He concluded time was my best friend. I did blood work for the next few months:
I do not have the blood work in front of me but i do have my TT written down. I will request my records and update so you can see the result of my full panels. I also remember that I was low in FSH and LH each time, indicating secondary hypogonadism.
Initial Oct blood work: TT 190
Nov blood work: TT 202
late Nov blood work: TT 282
February 12: TT 327
Guys I know these are all really low numbers and this is terrifying. I do not want to be on TRT because this is a lifelong commitment and I do want to have children. I am hoping time and some assistance could get my body back on track. My doctor put me on 25 mg clomid/ED last week and I will be running this until next month when I can finally see the best urologist in Texas. From my research it looks like I am secondary Hypgonadal. I need your advice in how to approach my next doctors visit.
It is a good sign that my levels are increasing on their own, right? I understand we do not have a baseline for pre AAS use, but I always had an amazing sex drive and was lean and muscular so I assume I was healthy (500-800 or so)
Should this clomid help my pituitary pick up the slack and signal the testes? Or should I continue to deal with the crash naturally and let my body do it's own recovery?
When I speak to the new urologist, should I request HCG/tamoxifen to jumpstart my system?
PLEASE ADVISE. THANK YOU.
HPGA/HPTA CRASH - RESTART? Is there hope?
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