This is gonna be a longish post, I'm gonna put up as much info as I can on my current status and see what advice I can get.. If you dont have time to read a few paragraphs or your response will be research the forums thanks for your help anyway.. I've been researching a lot and I dont know anyone who uses steroids for advice.. Some great info on youtube and these forums but I'm looking for advice on my current situation. I know Diet and how hard you work plays a big part.
I'm 26, 6 foot 1 270 lbs, currently cleaning up my eating habbits) and trying to trim off this beer gut.. I've always been active guy, outdoors-men, dabbled in sports as a teen, started working hard labor jobs at 15 (summer job offloading shrimp boats). Worked in the plant 4 seasons and flat roofed for a few years with other labor/bouncer jobs mixed in.. I'm fairly strong still but I'm pretty out of shape after being laid up a couple times from injuries and the daddy life tied me down. Trying to cut some weight naturally then I'm going to run some clen(taurine/potassium as well) and T3 and try to get 20-30 lbs pounds off(5lbs gone).
Aside from the clen and pct everything I plan to use will be Teragon labs products so any info on their quality would be great, all the reviews look good anyway. I was looking at a 12 week cycle to start off and perhaps extend it to 16 weeks if I felt up to it after 12. I was looking at T-350 witch is 5 esters of test 350mg/ml. I know ppl will say stick to a single ester to start with but I'm on a budget and $/mg ratio is in favor of T-350.. 115 mg evry 3 days of test. Go big or go home right?? Dbol and Tren 50 mg's of each per day for 6 weeks then switch to deca 500mg/week for 6 weeks. Am I crazy? I know about hte possible side effects of tren and will start it slow at say 20 mg's for 2 days then 35 for a day then 50. I might run the dbol an extra 2 weeks into the deca cycle. I'm looking to add mass after I loose the flabby mass I have on my gut.
Whats your thoughts on that cycle? I know it might be a little extreme for a newb but I dont half ass anything. Its no bostin loyd cycle.. Anti estrogen? what brand and how much? I was thinking about the deca after the tren/dbol because it would help rejuvenate my joints to push hard for the whole 12 weeks. Should I run stack something else with the deca? not interested in gh or peptides at this point I just want to be able to take my shirt off and feel good about my body rather then the embarrassed slouch I currently sport.
I know a good pct is key in any cycle. How much HCG should i buy? and how should it be dosed? what type of anti estrogen dose as well??
I know the risks and I'm going to take steroids, theres no talking me out of it.. Asking for advice to do this as safe as possible. I dont want to start with a super low dose basic test/dbol run but I dont want to go to far ether. From my research the doses i mention are about moderate?? any knowledgeable advice would be extremely appreciated!!!
I'm 26, 6 foot 1 270 lbs, currently cleaning up my eating habbits) and trying to trim off this beer gut.. I've always been active guy, outdoors-men, dabbled in sports as a teen, started working hard labor jobs at 15 (summer job offloading shrimp boats). Worked in the plant 4 seasons and flat roofed for a few years with other labor/bouncer jobs mixed in.. I'm fairly strong still but I'm pretty out of shape after being laid up a couple times from injuries and the daddy life tied me down. Trying to cut some weight naturally then I'm going to run some clen(taurine/potassium as well) and T3 and try to get 20-30 lbs pounds off(5lbs gone).
Aside from the clen and pct everything I plan to use will be Teragon labs products so any info on their quality would be great, all the reviews look good anyway. I was looking at a 12 week cycle to start off and perhaps extend it to 16 weeks if I felt up to it after 12. I was looking at T-350 witch is 5 esters of test 350mg/ml. I know ppl will say stick to a single ester to start with but I'm on a budget and $/mg ratio is in favor of T-350.. 115 mg evry 3 days of test. Go big or go home right?? Dbol and Tren 50 mg's of each per day for 6 weeks then switch to deca 500mg/week for 6 weeks. Am I crazy? I know about hte possible side effects of tren and will start it slow at say 20 mg's for 2 days then 35 for a day then 50. I might run the dbol an extra 2 weeks into the deca cycle. I'm looking to add mass after I loose the flabby mass I have on my gut.
Whats your thoughts on that cycle? I know it might be a little extreme for a newb but I dont half ass anything. Its no bostin loyd cycle.. Anti estrogen? what brand and how much? I was thinking about the deca after the tren/dbol because it would help rejuvenate my joints to push hard for the whole 12 weeks. Should I run stack something else with the deca? not interested in gh or peptides at this point I just want to be able to take my shirt off and feel good about my body rather then the embarrassed slouch I currently sport.
I know a good pct is key in any cycle. How much HCG should i buy? and how should it be dosed? what type of anti estrogen dose as well??
I know the risks and I'm going to take steroids, theres no talking me out of it.. Asking for advice to do this as safe as possible. I dont want to start with a super low dose basic test/dbol run but I dont want to go to far ether. From my research the doses i mention are about moderate?? any knowledgeable advice would be extremely appreciated!!!
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